kizo / arscom [update 28/11/09]

[kizo]

Hi
here are some of our works.
hope you like them, and please give some opinions and advices.

kizo

Hello,
once again an entry I made for a rendering contest.this time on www.vizdepot.com
Im pushing my luck but its getting harder and and harder every time

I wanted a cliche image of a tropical resort at sunset time.....not aiming for realism...but rather an eye catching "promotional" piece
This time I experimented with the spherical camera .... inspired by the panoramic photos I was browsing.

near the end I started wasting too much time on details and variations so it was time to stop....tho some things could be further adjusted

as always I hope you find it interesting

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Wish_kizo_small.jpg

high res: http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/wishFinal_kizo.jpg
monochrome version:
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Wish_kizo_OKa.jpg

and here are some images from the process:

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/WIRES.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/backgroundCompositing.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/focPoints.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/barka.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/spaga2.jpg

kizo

21.11.2009 commercial interiors
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/manje.jpg

15.09.2009. Charette#15 - Quinta House @ www.3dallusions.com

http://www.3dallusions.com/forums/design-challanges-charrettes-themed-challenges/3474-charette-15-quinta-house.html


http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Quinta_Kizo_01.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Quinta_Kizo_02.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Quinta_Kizo_03.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Quinta_Kizo_04.jpg

15.08.2009. illustrations for general informatics magazine

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/cybersexTEXT.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/vagaTEXT.jpg



Hello, here is my entry to the evermotion competition......I wanted to have a different POV and non standard look but i took the task more like an artistic impression as i wanted to avoid the standard viz.work

it was fun to make ..... no post as stated by the rules

I used my old nick (mia_) as it is my personal work

hope you like it :)

kizo

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/FINAL_mia_ok.jpg


28.03.2009.

http://www.arscom.hr/static/projekti/69/gratis_01.jpg
http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/gratis_02.jpg/69/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Gratis) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/gratis_05.jpg/69/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Gratis) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/gratis_04.jpg/69/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Gratis) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/gratis_07.jpg/69/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Gratis) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/gratis_06.jpg/69/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Gratis)

25.03.2009.

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/restbig.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/01neum.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/02neum.jpg

21.12.2008

Ville Zanubia

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/manjada_1.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/manjada_2.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/noc1.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/noc2.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/zalaz1.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/zalaz2.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/00.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/01.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/02.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/03.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/04.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/05.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/06.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/07.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/12.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/let1.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/let2.jpg

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/let3.jpg

18.11.2008

beach bar
http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/bar_05.jpg/62/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Bar_Porec) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/bar_06.jpg/62/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Bar_Porec) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/bar_07.jpg/62/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Bar_Porec) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/bar_02.jpg/62/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Bar_Porec)
http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/bar_03.jpg/62/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Bar_Porec) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/bar_04.jpg/62/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Bar_Porec) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/bar_01.jpg/62/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Bar_Porec)

hotel reception concept
http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/rec03.jpg/63/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Hotel_Amarin_Rovinj) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/rec04.jpg/63/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Hotel_Amarin_Rovinj) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/rec09.jpg/63/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Hotel_Amarin_Rovinj)


29.10.2008 Istarska

click on image to view full size (3000px)

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/detalj1500.jpg (http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/detalj.jpg)

http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Istarska_ext_01.jpg/60/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Istarska_eksterijer) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Istarska_ext_02.jpg/60/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Istarska_eksterijer) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Istarska_ext_03.jpg/60/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Istarska_eksterijer) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Istarska_ext_04.jpg/60/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Istarska_eksterijer) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Istarska_ext_06.jpg/60/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Istarska_eksterijer) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Istarska_ext_08.jpg/60/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Istarska_eksterijer)



26.10.2008. Inna

http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Inna_Liznjan_03.jpg/59/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Inna) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Inna_Liznjan_04.jpg/59/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Inna) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Inna_Liznjan_06.jpg/59/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Inna)
http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Inna_Liznjan_05.jpg/59/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Inna) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Inna_Liznjan_02.jpg/59/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Inna) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Inna_Liznjan_01.jpg/59/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/Inna)

17.10.2008. Mr.Omar Residence

http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar03.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar07.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar08.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar01.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar06.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar)
http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar05.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar02.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar09.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar) http://www.arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/Omar04.jpg/58/h-100.jpg (http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/g.Omar)

16.10.2008.
Hi, something different than usual :D
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/kutija.jpg


12.09.2008. Hotel Amarin
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Hotel.jpg



30.08.2008. Neum
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Neum.jpg


19.05.2008. Another finished project.
http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/06.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/01.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/03.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/02.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/05.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/04.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II)

07.05.2008.
Hi there, this was one of my first visualizations ever made.....now rendered with vray 64-bit.the scene vegetation has cca. 7milion polygons all alpha mapped leafs and 2sided mat.All other mat. are procedurals.
This scene will be available for download, but without the vegetation (copyright issues)
I hope you like it ;)
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Robie_House.jpg
here is my c4d version from 2003.
http://www.mi3dot.org/gallery/original/2140/

21.04.2008.
the image was rendered @ 11220x6471px, the original is the blue one and was commissioned like that. the other one was a quick try with something to reflect
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/kapBig1.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/kap2.jpg

all rendered without GI

21.04.2008.
this is a simple basic turntable animation we did as a part of the presentation
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/ToranjAnim.jpg
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Toranj.wmv
you can find the presentation images here (rendered with Fry):
http://www.arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/toranj-split

05.04.2008.
this time I just couldn't stop rendering :) so here is the whole package....
hope you like it
http://pornimg.com/images/9on2dxppbodaa6hee4.jpg

2 new ones.....
http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/37/classic1rj8.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7316/classic2bd8.jpg

Hi, here is my monthly update.Hope you like it :)
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/70/majdu9.jpg



updated 30.12.2007.
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/936/happynewyeararscom2tz0.jpg
Dear developers, moderators and fellow users
We wish you all the best in the New Year!!!

Arscom Studio

Kizo


updated 22.11.2007.
here is my latest project.A small stone house.
Im really happy with this one, and the render speed was fantastic. cca. 30 min. per image at 1920x1080 with various DSP activated.
Thanks to glass.use I have caustics in the top view image, it is a bit blurred but took only 18 min to render. I hope you like it too :)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8760/minjahizaokru4.jpg


a small update from our current project.i did something wrong with the ies lights but had no time to fix.this one is PS corrected quite a bit.....updated with more images
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/523/nurig5.jpg

updated 12,10.2007.
some product presentation works for a printed catalogue....all rendered at 3508x2480 (a4 300dpi) any suggestion is more than welcome.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8175/0111aj0.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4467/0222xp4.jpg
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8641/pod1nc7.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3772/pod3xy0.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5725/pod2nz5.jpg


rendered at 3100x2400 with DSP
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1062/stroj2vrayku7.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3429/stroj1vrayc4dou1.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1354/ivarcarscomtj4.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4483/k21arscomox9.jpghttp://img45.imageshack.us/img45/9382/1189881192inkubatorarscyv1.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6131/airbrushkizoarscomhl5.jpghttp://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8966/ivararscomxw6.jpg

[choppir]

looks brilliant mate!

my question is how you get the skies like that and the grass. the stripes on the grass as id is is cut...

nice!

choppir

[marshalartist]

Stunning Work!!! :D

[kromekat]

Yes beautiful work indeed! - I am particularly impressed with the tech cutaway - great work! ;)

Adam

[vbvcvj]

Beautiful, hope to see more brilliant work like this here.

[kizo]

thanks guys :)

choppir if you mean the cloudy skies, those are photos mapped frontally on a plane with a comp.tag
others are plain vray skies

for the grass stripes I use a color map with stripes, but I haven't managed to adjust DSP so this one is too flat

[Fluffy]

Great work!
I like the cutout image and the last one very much :)

[Rich_Art]

Awesome work.. I would love to know how you did the grass.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[Tong]

yea GRASS GREAT, can you post simple grass scene (grass object, material and texture), just for edu grass + vray.

[glass.use]

it will be awesome if the last exterior will be included in the "V"exterior at tools4d

nice images :D

[kizo]

Hi
the grass is made using the old hair department plug (works only in 9.6)
so its a bunch of 2d polygons with a simple mat.that uses noises and some speculars

as for the exterior scene to be includeed at tools4d, thats not up to me
I can provide the scene if needed

kizo

[glass.use]

ohhh please provide it please please please,,
i will pay extra 20$ XD its amazing.. Cristian can u accept his scene please.... :oops: he is so generous to provide it so why not :) if yes im certain to buy the exteriors on 1 oct!!!
everybody will agree, its really amazing we really really need it
PLEASE! :roll:
or if they cant i will buy it from you with paypal :P

thank you very very much

[Rich_Art]

Thanks for the explanation. :)
I'll can use the hair module for some grasses I think. I did not tried that yet. I think for a field full with grass, I'll need more then the 2gig ram I now have. :)

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[Fluffy]

You don't really need GIs on the grass blades most of the time, so just make a second pass using the Hair shader in AR, and composite with the final image.

Here is an example of an old project using this method :
http://fluffy4d.com/wp-content/gallery/architecture/jd_final.jpg

[kizo]

updated with some recent works
any suggestion is more than welcome

[Rich_Art]

very great example Fluffy..
I really don't understand how you guys make those cristal clear images....

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[glass.use]

great work on interiors ;)
hope you more success 8)

[rufus]

Hi all!! :)
great render kizo
how could you create the material for the curtains and the lamps with translucent?
thank you

bye Mario

[kizo]

hi
a small update on first page / 11. 11. 2007.

[lzooml]

http://www.3dhr.net/galerija/15/1192215967_0111.jpg

How did you created this carpet ?

[kizo]

I used a noise shader in DSP slot, changing the edge length from 4 to 2 helps to get thiner "fibers"

[fubiano]

vrlo ljepo / very beautiful :)

[afternooncoffeeboy]

great work

[the_X]

superb...

you must make tutorial for that last exterior and interior :D

[kizo]

thanks people......Im not in the position to write tutorials as im finding my way with vray :D .....maybe one day....

I updated with more images from the last project

[glass.use]

UP! nice updates. i enjoyed the top view pretty much!

[daan5]

nice work !

[kizo]

updated on 1st page

Happy New Year

kizo

[glass.use]

happy new year kizo =)
love the snow man. just i see the wood texture is low res.
other than that really cute render :P

[glass.use]

i noticed all your old images are down :cry:

[sketchbook]

fluffy - my opinion is your grass in your scene is scaled too large. when i see the size of the person and such, that is some massive grass. was it losing too much detail at a smaller size?

otherwise great render.

thread renderings - i see no cutaway that people are mentioning... i think the renderings are nice. the first building is a little off to me in materials, but not from a rendering stand point. it's a little jarring with all those colors. but nice otherwise.

grass - again - what grass are people referring to? the stuff in the foreground or the lawn? the lawn looks like a displacement... sorry if i am confused.

the restaurant - you have a oddly shaped bar, where it's not straight. it makes it look like a fisheye effect or something - so i'd be careful of camera angles on that one. nice work.

[kizo]

I had some problems with the image host, but all fixed now
now you can see all the images again

thanks on your comments sketchbook
you are definitely right about the materials I have to work more on them, but color is so hard to be reproduced exactly the same on all various outputs

regarding the restaurant POV its not only the shape doing the trick, but I used a really wide angle as its a tight place and we had to show all of it

[stefan]

great renderigs again, also happy new year kizo!
cheers
stefan

[kizo]

:arrow: updated on 1. page
:?: do you like it?

[machmirdenlukas]

:arrow: updated on 1. page
:?: do you like it?

yess! i like it.
very good renders.
topnotch.
cheerz m

[glass.use]

absolutly kizo very nice interior. i just see it little blurry.

[Shordy]

hell yeah - excellent work done :shock:

[nycL45]

Really nice work, kizo. Favs of the new work: 2, 1, 3. The first seems a little less sharp. The "looks lived in" objects really help.

[kizo]

:D thanks

[kizo]

+ 2 new ones on 1st page

[haon]

Hi kizo

I´m speechlees - very good jobs

I take my hat off to you :-)

Im a new vray user please
can you give me an tip or link for the workflow lightsetup in a exterior scene
Thx
haon

[kizo]

Thanks haon

my workflow for exteriors is:

IR+LC or IR+BF( if using displacement)
color mapping: reinhard 1 / 0.2 / 2.2 (gamma)
textures with filter/ gamma 0,45
phys. cam + sky & sun
some post work(PS) / mainly levels, curves adjustment

kizo

[haon]

Hi kizo

thank you for a few tips :-)

Haon

[olhorobot]

I used a noise shader in DSP slot, changing the edge length from 4 to 2 helps to get thiner "fibers"

great hint!

[olhorobot]

regarding the restaurant POV its not only the shape doing the trick, but I used a really wide angle as its a tight place and we had to show all of it

usually i "remove" a wall and get a POV from the outside. it's a fake POV but works well for smal spaces...

[olhorobot]

am I right that you interior light setup includes a light in the point of camera?

It looks like that, but it doens't look bad or anything, it's like if you were a photographer you would use fill light, right? i'll try that in my next projects.

[kizo]

yes I did use additional lights, but not in the point of the camera....
I place area lights on my openings and give them slight color variations

but your point is absolutely true, even in 3d is useful to use some "classic" techniques to achieve a good image

[rhodesy]

Hey Kizo,

Im admiring your interiors, they are so clear and light. I have been trying to recreate the same crispness and can't quite seem to get it, mine seem just that bit muddy. Do you think you could share your settings? That would be most appreciated but I understand if they're top secret!!

Cheers

[PureSpider]

can you maybe share your sofa and your pillow mats please?

[kizo]

Hi rhodesy :) nice to see you

well I'm experimenting every time so various settings are involved and a great amount of post color corrections and other enhancements.

my generat setup is:
IR+LC or IR+BF( if using displacement)
color mapping: reinhard 1 / 0.2 / 2.2 (gamma)
textures with filter/ gamma 0,45
phys. cam + sky & sun

I find this to work nicely, but my problem is that sun+sky+phys.cam alone seem to lack some fine shadows from indirect light(like the ones where the leg of the chair meets the ground)....this is probably because I'm no expert .......
I tried to use "light portals" option.......this looks much better to me but takes to long to render
so my alternative is to place additional area lights on some/all openings or somewhere in the scene....this allows me to tint the lights (slightly) and gain some control over the light distribution all with very fast times and no need for very high settings

I'm aware that this is not the "physically" correct way as Stefan and Strat have pointed out but gives me nice results in decent times even for animation...

hope you find something useful in this observations

kizo

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2783/kizodb8.jpg
here i found 2 test renders, you can see the difference in the shadow/illumination but the only thing changed in the light setup is "light portals" on/off.....with area lights you get something in between

[aircut]

Thanks for sharing your tips & settings! :D
It's a very great image & light setup
Respect!

[stefan]

maybe kizo also try the BR+LC method.
and you probably use too bad gi setup, your example without light portal look like you need more detailed lc or ir or both

but set this up by hand not using the presets, this is much more efficient

or send me a file i can also try with you;-)
cheers
stefan

[machmirdenlukas]

hi kizo,
thanks for your tips regarding your workflow. love your skills.
may i ask which postprocessing-techniques you apply?
specially the living-room.
or raw vray-outputs?
cheerz m

[kizo]

thanks aircut & machmirdenlukas
i do mostly color correction, and levels/curves adjusting, but also add subtle glow
if needed i render a mask for a certain material and use it to adjust the the looks of that material afterwards in PS
I never use raw outputs from any engine


@Stefan......you are right about too low settings in the example image....but I tried a lot of combinations and even with extremely high GI settings this kind of shadow was not present but the times were much longer
It would be nice to see some example of this kind of situation with "correct" setup, done by you or someone else from the team
thanks

kizo

[stefan]

well i can try if you send me a scene...
cheers
stefan

[kizo]

ok Stefan I will try to find some time to strip the scene down and send it to you

PureSpider here you go.....some of the materials I used in my last setup.......you will see they are very basic setups (again probably not optimal)
http://rapidshare.com/files/96662994/kizo__mat1.rar.html

[machmirdenlukas]

thanks aircut & machmirdenlukas
i do mostly color correction, and levels/curves adjusting, but also add subtle glow
if needed i render a mask for a certain material and use it to adjust the the looks of that material afterwards in PS
I never use raw outputs from any engine


kizo
thanks!

[PureSpider]

thx 4 the mats, they're great :)

[rhodesy]

Thanks for the tips Kizo. Interesting colour mapping. Is that the same for both inside and out? Im trying out the linear workflow and can't tell much difference yet but need to experiment some more.

Yes that example you have shown with thejust the physical sky is what I have been getting, much less definition on the shadows and light. I will try using area lights instead of portals as well for an experiment.

Cheers

[kizo]

Hi, just added an update on 1.page.....a bit longer than usual... hope you don't mind...

[eddie]

hello kizo

wow ! very nice images ! I like very much the exterior...
what value did u use for the sun and phycam? did u use HDRI?

and what CM Method did u use for the interiors ? :P


respect

[choppir]

yo!

Really like your wall textures!! Very good!!! You are more than welcome to share it!!! :D :lol: :lol:

[maya69]

your last update is reaally great

[charlemagne]

love your plants, what are they?
especially the terrace plant with long leeves (olive tree?)

ch.

[Rich_Art]

Amazing update... I really like the outcome of the last update.
The lighting is very realistic...

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[zoppo]

:shock:

wow - i can perfectly understand why you couldn't stop rendering!
great selection of pov and image details!
i' ll (ab)use it as inspiration ...

[kizo]

thanx!!!

I really like the result this time and it was fast to render too (ok I have a new rig but still it is very fast)

unfortunately I still cant use vray for everyday production as the kind of work we do (mostly stone houses) requires a lot of details and polygons
this one was on the limit , crashing quite often
....so cant wait to get the 64 bit version....and start using vray more and more

[eddie]

hello Kizo

well...I tried to creat glass mat for window as u told me...it is never worked out for me :(

any chance u can upload the ur wonderful glass mat?

thanx !

[Cian]

Very nice Kizo.
Those updates are lovely.

Cian.

[kizo]

thanks Cian

eddie here are the materials: http://rapidshare.com/files/109263150/glassKizo.c4d.html

[kizo]

a tiny update on 1st page.....

[eddie]

wow Kizo !

Finally I got an access to ur wonderful site ! wow...speechless !
all work look amazing.

by the way, Do u use Fry render in most of them?

[kizo]

updated on first page 07.05.2008.

F.L.W. Robie House visualization (promo work)
its a remake of one of my very first 3d visualizations

cheers
kizo

[eddie]

Dear Kizo

well.................it is very bad this time !






WRONG !!!

it is damn amazing ! :)
ur vegetation is simply amazing.
do u have a tip for me how to make my trees nice as urs?
the trees behind are 3d mesh? or a background pic?

[kizo]

Hi eddie
thank you....

my vegetation is made using ONYX , and i didn't wary about poly count too much as the 64 bit version + lot of ram .....so all is 3d

thank you once more, I really appreciate your comment as it seems you are the only one that likes it :D

[eddie]

no...I am sure everybody does here.

thanx Kizo !

how do u have the 64 bit? did I mis something?

[kizo]

no you didn't miss a thing....it will come :D

[Tong]

soooon ...oops.. :lol:

[eddie]

tong

soon= 1 month? 3 months? one year?

please....don`t say soon.
only dissapointments with thes "soon" thing :cry:

[eddie]

kizo

I have another question pls
last time u mentiones becuase u use a lot displacement...so u use the IR+BF (instead of IR+LC).
so, if my setting now is good for exterior but I am using IR+LC and would like to change it to IR+BF (many dis) Do I only change to Bf in the secondary bounces? that all? oh shuld I change more things?

[kizo]

you shouldn't have any problems switching to BF, and you dont have to change anything else (there might be a slight difference in output)

if u are having ram issues I recommend to use the technique that STRAT explaind here: http://forum.vrayforc4d.com/viewtopic.php?t=1701

using 1/2 output size without AA for precalculating IR and LC helps a lot

[eddie]

thanx a lot Kizo

I will read it and apply it . :lol:

[TylerAfx]

The Waterdrop looks nice, ist it modeled or Reaflow ?

only still or animation ?

cheers

[eddie]

Hi Kizo

I love your red/brown mat on the walls of your exterior scenes(not the last one......I mean the one with the olive tree).
I need something like this now in my project.
any chance to get a tip how to do this (if possible to share it it would be
very generous as usual)

by the way...where is the olive tree from? onyx?

thanx anyway.

[desc4d]

Hi Kizo congrats for your magnificent work, I've been terribly busy so haven't truly checked the forum lately but what I saw from you is truly amazing, besides that the fact that you share your experience and some materials from what I saw is a proof of what a great guy you are.
Keep up the lovely work and the good mood.

Daniel

[eddie]

Desc4d

tienes mucho razon. Kizo es una persona muy amable.

que tal Quito?

[desc4d]

Que tal Eddie, bastante bien por el momento con un poco de sol y celebrando por acá el dÃ.a de la Madre con bastante trabajo para no perder la costumbre.
Espero que donde estés igual esté un buen dÃ.a y que la pases excelente.
MagnÃ.fico saber que hay más hablahispanos por todo lado.

Daniel

[Tong]

Speak English please ;-)

Ps: Happy Mother day too.

[kizo]

thanks desc4d :)

eddie here is the mat.
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/zbukaKizo.rar


Tong Happy Mother day too

:D :D

[choppir]

mate, that 3rd waterdrop image looks absolutely super real!

Images r looking very good Kizo.

Well done brov! :D

[kizo]

thx choppir :)

@TylerAfx the water drop was modeled in c4d, no simulations used, so only a still...

[eddie]

Kizo !

I want to thank u soooo much !

how generous !!!

can u resend the link of ur wonderful site...I lost it :?

[BerTiN03]

I definitivly love your last update Kizo... My god, if I could have one day the half of you skill... :oops:

Just one critic, I find the water reflection, to Noisy, to glossy. It seems like Ã. raining day. That's the only one critic I have to emit, all the rest seems PERFECT to my eyes ! :)

[kizo]

@BerTiN03 im glad u like it......and it was my intention to make it look wet , like after the rain when the sun comes out......so thx

@eddie www.arscom.hr

[choppir]

kizo,

Something is wrong with your site. It makes an error message when i go on your site? :?

choppir

[Max]

Lots of great creations by you kizo, especially your interior shots and also the thingy which is dug down in the grass, i'm not sure if it's a pump or something else but it looks good. :) nice to see you're so gifted with Vray.

Keep up the good work!

/ Max

[kizo]

@choppir seems to work now, what browser are you using?

@Max hi Magnus, nice to see u here too.....are u using vray? its a great tool and offers a lot ...
thanks

kizo

[Max]

Hiya Kizo, no unfortunately i'm not using Vray, my budget can not stretch far enough for it. I haven't got it yet, but i would like to use it someday soon. Seeing what you and the other guys can do with it i'm getting kinda envious. :)

/ Max

[shtl]

Hey Kizo!
I didn't come in this post for a while... thoose last works are... beyond what I was expecting while clicking in. Very nice atmosphere sense, congrats!

I don't know if you work from references or from your own eyes, but thoose result in full of life images, that works very niiiiice :)

The 20080405 lighting is ultra pleasant.
Also very pleasant to see the FL Wright house in a new perspective. :)
(PS: particulary loved the fallen leaves on the ground )


Thanks for saring files, I hope I can descover from them some of your quality secrets?


Finaly I have a little question: does the import of Onyx works well with c4d? (I thaught it was exclusively a 3DS software :oops: ).
Obj import? include UVW ? In Onyx, can you choose the amount of polys/ details?

[kizo]

Hi shtl, I'm glad u got surprised.... :)
even more if u can find something useful in my posts....

onyx is a has a standalone version which has a direct c4d export, all UV info is exported correctly .....I find it to be the best vegetation generator for me , so far...

kizo

[shtl]

Thanks for feedback Kizo :thumbup:

Are you using the "garden suite" ?
You are coming from 3ds max ain't you? Did you try the storm version?

Thanks again, and keep up great work (sure you will ^^)

[kizo]

19.05.2008. Another finished project.
http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/06.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/01.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/03.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/02.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/05.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II) http://arscom.hr/images/cache/projekti/04.jpg/45/h-100.jpg (http://arscom.hr/hr/portfolio/split_II)


@shtl yes I'm using the garden suite, but I'm not using max (never have) so no storm for me ;)

[rufus]

great render zoran :wink:
congratz

[machmirdenlukas]

great site, great shots,
cheerz rob

edit: is there an anination of this project available?
i guess that was the reason for a vray-version instead of your awesome fry-style..
rob

[Fluffy]

Very nice!

[eddie]

kizo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it is fucking beatiful !!!

wow !
very photorealistic+artistic !!! also I like the architecture.

goodluck mate

[kizo]

THANK YOU :)

[Studiolex]

Hi Kizo,

The quality of your last update is absolutely stunning. Is all your vegetation here also done with ONYX? It's so photoreal.... I should dive into that piece of software.

Cheers, Lex

[jenzy]

very realistic renderings !!

some points:
-why do you use tiles for the roofground without usability as a roof terrace? who will pay for this? perhaps you try something like this:

http://images.google.de/images?client=opera&rls=de&q=extensive%20dachbegr%C3%BCnung&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&lr=lang_de&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

- dont like the colored chairs on the terrace, would make them also in the style of the house, the vegtation is enough colored contrast in the scene

- the glass-balustrade is i.m.o too milky

but no doubt, great renders !!!

btw.: your website fuxxx on opera, ie and mozilla !!![/url]

[kizo]

hi jenzy, thanks for taking the time to give me your opinion, much appreciated :)

- the roof ground is as the architects specified(so my intervention is out of question)

the furniture was picked up from my previous projects, so I haven't given much thought.....now when u mention it, I could have done better

as for the glass balustrade, I'm very pleased with the outcome !!! so matter of taste i guess ;)


what do u meen "your website fuxxx on opera, ie and mozilla", doesnt it work?

we have tested so there should be no problems, but please tell me whats wrong

thx

kizo

[eddie]

yes Kizo

the only bad thing in ur website is that it doesn`t work with my explorer.....no access !

[Soukynek]

the last serie is the best here on vrayforc4d.com !!!!!!!!! great work, design, lightning, setup... all

[BerTiN03]

omagad.....oO


OMAGAAAD !!!

The last serie is really wonderful !!!

All is perfect.. ALL !!!!

[jenzy]

what do u meen "your website fuxxx on opera, ie and mozilla", doesnt it work?

we have tested so there should be no problems, but please tell me whats wrong

thx

kizo

hi kizo,

yesterday i had trouble by using opera:

the "next" and "previous" picture buttons didn`t work

firefox:

just the startsite worked

i-explorer7:

chrashed after some seconds


today all browser works fine :lol:

obviously a problem of your hoster

have a nice day :D

[eddie]

for me it still doesnt work :?

[Garban]

Congratulations!
You uptdate is encredible, very realistic and perfect for me.
Congratulations again!

[kizo]

the site should work correctly now (I hope )

thanks for helping me out :)


Garban, BerTiN03 and Soukynek
Its a pleasure to see you like our work, thanks

kizo

[shtl]

Yeah one more great UP!

Congrats :D

[kizo]

merci beaucoup shtl

[the_X]

great update... i like mood on your image :D

[kizo]

Hi. I updated on 1st page with a recently finished project.
As this is more like a concept there were no details to show.

All images are rendered at 2560x1440px using presaved half size maps (IR+LC)
render times were from 20 to 55 min. ( LC 2-3 min, IM 3-5min)
no proxy were used, so all trees are polygons + alpha mapped ( we used the great VB collection)
the scene poly count was from 5 up to 20 million and vray crunched it without any problems and really fast! :shock: :D

we used the latest 64bit beta.....the new release is gonna rock!!!!

cheers

kizo

[ichi.one]

very nice work, really like the "Neum" project
how did you render all those trees ?
and that aberration is that photoshop ?

good work !

edit i see above about the trees

[eddie]

wow Kizo !!!

that`s awsome ! very nice work !

I like the sea..the trees..the buildings....actually I like everything !!!


how did u do the shore line ?

ps1: why it si not in ur site ?
ps2: did u do the last 2 works (Alpska +HB Villa) in Fryrender? or vrayforc4d?

[kizo]

thank you ichi.one and eddie :)

the aberration is made in PS ( but its too strong when I look at it now)
also as always I did some color correction.

eddie Im glad you like it, but being this a fast one there are a lot of errors and things I don't like. So plese give me some critic comments, it wold be nice to hear what stands out (bad or good) the most in other peoples eyes

I will upload the sea / shore line so you can see, but im not very happy with it.
I had to work on it in PS afterwards as the line where the sea touches the sand was very sharp and almost black.

it is not on our site jet cos I haven't uploaded it, but I will....

Alpska and HB Villa are rendered with Fry, but its a compliment if its not that obvious to you :)

[kizo]

new update on 1st page "Hotel Amarin"

another extremely tight deadline job so a lot could be better..All made in 4 days.We got some "models" from the architects, but heavy editing was needed.fortunately we had the terrain and surroundings from some previous projects and VRAY to help us finish on time.

we made intensive use of vray proxies (all the plants and furniture) all painted with Paint On Surface plugin.

any C&C is welcome, thanks

kizo

[BerTiN03]

Amazing, comme d'habitude.

What a chance to be able to use 1.1 and sell projects with it...

[choppir]

holy smokes kizo,

you modelled all this yourself? How long did it take?

Impressive!!! :shock:

[michael holt]

4 days.... Kizo you´re unbelievible !!!
You should change your nickname with "renderhero" hehe

next time i will give you my jobs to work for.....
your stuff is much more than impressive !!!

greetings from Bremen,
Michael

[kizo]

hey choppir, we got the models but thy were in really bad shape as this is a proposal concept, not a finished project. so a lot of tweaking and adjusting was needed.
and we do it as a team (4 of us worked on it) we couldn't do it otherwise

thx BerTiN03 its definitly a great chance and we try to do our best in testing, using new features and producing (I hope) nice results with them showing the possible usage

[kizo]

thanks michael
again only team work pulls this kind of job in such a short time.
but its very hard, for this one we set our record, 34 hours with no sleep

so you can imagine we do it only for a very good motivation(price:)) and to gain some major jobs and references.

still its a sacrifice we don't intend to do constantly


.....feel free to give us your jobs, we might even both profit out of it :)

kizo

[BerTiN03]

4 days.... Kizo you´re unbelievible !!!Michael


Omagade !!!! :shock: :shock:


Oh my god...

Oh my..


No more words to describe this perf....

You should change your pseudo to "Hero", shortly..

You're one (I would say "THE") of mine on this forum. All what you do is amazing, and your way of render is a reaching point for me.

And also.. I see you're incredibly fast...

Big Bravo Man !

[kizo]

Hi BerTiN03, your comment makes all of us very happy, thank you !

as usually only a few people comment our stuff, I started thinking we must be doing something very wrong. :);)

[michael holt]

you made something very perfect....
that makes us speechless.... :D

[Garban]

You can read my post in the page 8 of this thread...I dont want to repeat my words again :wink: :wink:

[stefan]

wow kizo, amazing, you get some sleep now i hope:-))))

see yu
cheers
stefan

[Rich_Art]

Great update. Very nice images..

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[maya69]

the last serie is always great

i like aerial vue

superbe

[haon]

Hi

wow perfect

very realistic visu ;)

haon


ps: wich plants to use in your interriorvisu

[cg4life]

Hi, simply amazing work.

My questions are, where can you get trained to do great stuff like this and how do you get that gradual transparency with the beach water?

Again, I am blown away by your fantastic work and I am extremely interested in this area of 3D.

Thanks.

[kizo]

Hi, we are glad you like it people :)

haon we use the VB collection (mostly for exteriors) and Onyx generated plants

cg4life for the beach water I used a water surface with some volume and a procedurally textured sea bottom (with gradients)......I will upload it so you can see.....
as for the training, you can come to our studio to get trained :)


...here is the file, it was rendered using LWF so the gamma 0,454 is applied to the diffuse

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/beach_kizo.c4d

also remember I did some post work in PS to eliminate a visible black line where the water intersects with the beach


kizo

[cg4life]

Hey thanks for uploading the file. I appreciate your taking the time to do so. As far as training is concerned, since I'm in Korea at the moment it would be difficult to get to it. It's nice of you to offer though.

Many thanks.

[InTheCity]

I may have already commented, but the update is very impressive.

Love the work you did on the ocean, I've been doing something similar myself, albeit without the vray proxy to aid me though.

[stefan]

kizo dint use proxy in that scenes i think:-)

cheers
stefan

p.s thanks for sharing kizo!

[kizo]

thx InTheCity

Stefan is right, in that scene we didn't use proyx, as I wanted to test how it will go with a huge amount of polygons and alpha mapped trees.

vray did it with no problem and amazing fast! even in some takes where the poly count was cca. 20 million !

keep in mind I tested this using the 64 bit beta version.

kizo

[BerTiN03]

Wow, amazing news !

Is this due to C4D 64 bits too ? I thought C4D 32 was not able to support more than about 10 millions polys ?

Very great and can let's hope amazing possibilities !

Thanks for the infos Kizo ! :wink:

[michael holt]

hey kizo,

Thanks alot for sharing the beach!!!

very nice :o

Greetings from Bremen,
Michael

[colibert]

wow, not sure how i missed all this,
amazing work, really really nice, water drops are something else! very impressive! thanks for the beach tex, off to have a look!

[shtl]

Yup, very nice representation and atmosphere. Great viz work! Very impressive.
And also thanks for the example file, this is generous of you :)

[BerTiN03]

omagade, I've haven't seen the shared file... ôÔ


Thanks man !!!!!

[Antimatter]

Absolute Amazing work! I love that restaurant with the painting on the ceiling.

[kizo]

Im glad you like it Antimatter, thanks !


there is an update on page 1. ...... this time different than the usual :)

[machmirdenlukas]

great update!

beside the dedication and professionalism i see in your work i´m always happy vrayforc4d is capeable of competing with fryrender (which you`r also using if i remember correctly) regarding quality..

:D cheerz rob

[kizo]

thanks Rob,
you are right, we use Fry also.....but lately mostly vray :)

kizo

[choppir]

wow! I really like it kizo!! well done!

[eddie]

hi kizo !!!


as usuall five stars !!! :) :) :) :) :)

how are u man?


Eddie

[Huv]

Kizo, could you just stop posting such pictures... :cry:

[ichi.one]

nice, specially the closeups
good work

[Bioswamp]

Mega Best Mega Work!
Cool pics!

пы�ы..... � тупо в ахуе :shock:

[kizo]

:) we are always happy when you professionals give us some feedback, even more when you like what we do and recognize the effort and love we put in it, THANKS



on 1st page there is an update, the usual arch.viz.
this time I played a bit (to much ?) in post so tell me how you see it.

kizo

[Cornelius Scipio]

Kizo: FANTASTIC !!

[KevinJ]

Nice Stuff as usual, Kizo.

[kizo]

Thank you Cornelius and Kevin :)

[huebbes74]

Hi KIZO;

perfect made pictures. Well it would be great, to give us/me some explanaition to your settings.

How did made the fantastic gras on your last update (17.10), was it done in postwork? I´ve never seen so realistic grass in Vray. Please give me tip to get such a gras.(Picture 1 and 2 on your Portfolio) And what about the trees, all done in Vray, i cant believe........



Well i had to stop this now, because I had a lot to learn.....

by

[BerTiN03]

Huebbes, I think it's some edited Hair, or fast and fur for the grass. It looks amazing, that's clear.

Just, is it jpg compression or too much post-effects like lens distortion, but it's not as good as usual.

Otherwise, always wonderful job !

[kizo]

you got that right BerTiN03

grass is polygonal , made with hair

trees are made with onyx


I admit the images are ruined with too strong post.....I can see this now but they looked ok to me before :):?: :)

[Rizon Parein]

Great update!!

[dusteh]

Stunning work, and the quantity as well, it just keeps coming!

I have one question, could you share the secret of your 3D hedges... how are you creating these, are they constructed from premade blocks or are you 'growing' them to fit your models?

[kizo]

im glad you like it Rizon :)

also thank you dusteh

we make hedges with onyx, than trim them inside c4d to form a cube so we can use 1 model 4 times in a row without any noticeable tiling...... with a few original models we make rows to form a hedge.....works quite nice

kizo

[kizo]

new one on 1st page ....... very ugly building :) but nice images ;)

....a similar one is on the way

[stefan]

wow, great light and mood kizo!
wonderfull

what colormapping setting do you use, can you say that?;-)
cheers
stefan

[eddie]

Kizo

I must say I have seen it 3 days ago ...so not new to me :lol:
every building (even if it is ugly) become masterpiece by ur renders ! :lol:

PS: very very nice atmosphere !!!

[kizo]

nice to see your comment Stefan :)
I used reinhard CM with low burn value......also LWF
but post work play a big role on the final look


eddie thanks for being a great supporter !!!

take a look now , there is one new that you haven't seen :)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

updated on 1st page, this time there is one full size rendering (3000px)

kizo

[Datenland]

This might be a noobie/stupid question since nobody else is asking it, but how do you make Vray render this amount of polygons.... I regularly kill it with two trees...

Erik

[glass.use]

using a powerful PC + Proxy feature.

[Datenland]

using a powerful PC

got one too.

+ Proxy feature.

meaning Vray 1.1 so he is a Beta tester?

Erik

[kizo]

Hi Datenland,
yes I have the opportunity to use the beta versions, its been this way from the beginning.
You can find this specified in various posts I made.

just to clarify, vray can render this kind of scenes even without proxy.
check in my postings, there is a test where we made a huge forest with no proxy

kizo

[Datenland]

Thank you for the reply. I'm still stuck with 32 Bit. Will not be long now I think.

Erik

[eddie]

hi kizo

I bought new hardware now.
I have Q9550 cpu +p5q motherboard + 8 giga ram

do u think I can render these kind of scenes with that much vegetation?

[Tong]

no problem eddie

[huebbes74]

Hi kizo,

I will now only look 1 times a week at your site, because it get frustated so such great stuff-thats getting frustated to me.


But i think we`ve got a lot to learn. Can you tell us something about your postwork, perhaps a post of your newest pic without postwork - to see what is able to do n vray (without pw). And how big is that scene and how many polys.

Did you make all in c4d or the housemodelling in an CAD-Software (which?)


Well thats it.

Thanks.

[eddie]

hi again Kizo

I know u ask sometimes for critics so here is a small one...... :wink:

most of ur veg is really nice and realistic but I think (& know) that u can do a better vine veg onto pergolas...it looks too flat to me.

is it ivy? (cause u had better do it with onyx to give it some variations in leaves planes)

another question....I guesss u use the 2-sided mat for leaves (cuase in other vray it is impossible to get such leaves texture) ...right? can "normal" users can get also beta versions?

[kizo]

hi eddie
u r right about the vine veg. its made with ivy.....and rather flat
i tried with onyx but cant find a way

as for betas and such Im not the one to ask, but Stefan
anyway there is a rumor on the forum that 1.1 is soon to be released
so no problems :)

[eddie]

Hi Kizo

thanx for replying

just curious...are ur clients like all that "unusual camera view" and stuff like the cracks on the road and such? or they are images for fun?

[kizo]

we tend to provide standard visuals for our clients, the framing is usually the same but once all is covered we make some different shots

as for cracks and such we had some requests to remove the "garbage" but after a short explanation they got our point.....we take care to not over do with these kind of effects.....it wold be nice to "ruin" a bit more those perfect surfaces but it would be too much

since we have no time for personal projects we try to push the jobs a bit further every time, sometimes it works others not :)

kizo

[eddie]

nice approach and glad it works to apply ur touches in design.

I was trying to solve the vine problem ...did u try to low the gravity down thus the leaves will look dropped down and it might be better?


nothing similar in onyx?

[Antimatter]

Wonderful work on that last one ... the amount of details is great!
The detail shot with the tree is stunning. :shock:

[haon]

Hi Kizo

your rendering 26.10.2008. Inna is very great - Note 1 :-)


You write - you have the picture tune with post work in PS

can you tell use - the steps your are used for the post work

have you any tipps for us - we can lern the postwork ? :lol:

Greets Haon

[don_tomaso]

holy crap, extremely nice pictures :)

I guess all the beautiful vegetationmaterials are made with the new doublesided material function?

[kizo]

Hi Antimatter, haon and don_tomaso .... thanks for the support :)

I have no fixed formula for post processing the images. It all depends on how i did the render and what Id like to achieve, but I can explain some common procedure.

usually I do post in PS, using different options to enhance contrast, colors and exposure.

So adding adjustment layers like "curves" (set to the "S" curve)

adding another adjustment layer "color balance" (here i set colors of shadows, highlights to contrasted tones. ex. shadows more blue and highlights more yellow/red)

adjust the "exposure" and also the the offset (-) to get more concentrated dark areas

sometimes I create an overexposed layer and blend it with the normal one in screen mode but faded until I like the result

as I like the "lens distortion" and especially color aberration usually I set some also (+6 -6 size 101).....but this blurs the image so a bit of "smart sharpen" to reduce the blur

for my pleasure I add curves layer adjusted separately (r,G,B) to get a film like cross processing look, but usually I don't stick to the standard values....
this step is very tricky for me, It looks nice on screen, but hard to predict the looks when printed.....so I give customers the images without it most the time

beside the PS I use also Irfan for quick adjustments (brightness, contrast, gamma)

also other simple things like subtle glows, or parts cut and adjusted separately to better fit the image

as you can see a lot of experimenting is involved, and very often what i achieve doesn't look right to me the next day :)
but that makes it more fun and I enjoy this very much

here are some examples of before and after:

http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/postP.jpg

kizo

[machmirdenlukas]

thanks kizo, nice tips

[haon]

Hi Kizo

great your tipps

I found kizo is a great guy - thx

greets haon

[eddie]

thanx a lot Kizo !!!

u r the man ! really appreciate u gave ur time for us !

[Aziz]

The work here is amazing.

How do you create so many trees and not have c4d crash on you. Are they images or what do you do?

Thanks

[kizo]

thank you aziz ,,,, I'm using proxy


I updated on 1st page with 2 ,not very detailed, but interesting projects :)

kizo

[Antimatter]

Ok it seems that i repeating me ... the reception concept is wonderful ... color shifting fits very well too. I like your work as always. :)

[eddie]

kizo , it looks awsome !!!

I really like the last ones (and last last ones etc)...especially the beach bar !!! wow ! u always left my mouth wide open :o

but, am I wrong? it looks like Fry.......is it really vray?

don`t stop exciting us :lol:

[eddie]

I think we can clearly declare u r "The king of vegetation" for 2008 award :idea:

[kizo]

Hello
we recently finished our last (quite big) job for this year.
you can find a lot of images on 1st page of this post
as always I hope you enjoy them :)

its been a great (Vray) year, and we wish you even a better one to come
all the best from Arscom Studio

kizo

[Rich_Art]

Man those images are relly great. :D

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[ZuluQ]

As usual, perfect work.
I want to be like you!!! :wink:

[kizo]

Thank you Rich_Art and ZuluQ :)

from the whole Arscom team

kizo

[nycL45]

Amazing in breadth and depth. Terrific work, Arscom.

Leonard

[kizo]

Thanks Leonard we appreciate it very much

[eddie]

Kizo

It is the best work of u ever I think.............

no words mate

[kizo]

Hi eddie , its nice to hear you think so :)
you are our greatest supporter here on the forum, never missed to write a few words and we thank you for that

also I wish you all the best in the new year!

kizo

[stefan]

wow kizo!
again you make such excellent renderings, we are happy to have you as user and tester:-)

i wish you a nice christmas and new year!
cheers
stefan

[InTheCity]

Man, how much time do you spend working?

Amazing updates.

[prayas]

very very nice updates and a nice addition to an allready impressive gallery here.

Kizo how was the water/ocean made? I'm not so much interrested in the form but more in the shading. Or was it a photo?

P..:

[kizo]

hey thank you guys :)

its a pleasure hearing fellow professionals like our work

@InTheCity

we had been working very hard and most probably more than needed.....all to make our business grow and get noticed......and it was going great...................but than the crisis came

maybe you have some work for us .....we are very cheap lol :)


@prayas

if you think about this (http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/Neum.jpg) than there is a file with the mat. I shared, somewhere in the same gallery thread

If you were talking about some other areal shots than the sea is a photo

kizo

[KevinJ]

Kizo,

Can you a share a setup on how you do your shots from above, please, please please?

KJ

[prayas]

Wow. Was thinking about doing the sea that way but didn't actually do it.
Thanks so much for the file.

I'm off paintning sea and sand now.

P..:

[sambrn]

Kizo, great works... you and your team are very skillful.

2 questions about your bird's eyes views:

1 - the roads are always amazing seen from the top and i wonder if you export an UVW map and then work a road texture by photoshop to make the darker lines made by car tyres and other type of dirt.

2 - the grass looks 100% real seen from the top and i wonder if you use Hair Dept plugin to make a rectangle of grass and then by vray proxy you replicate this one on all your ground area.

Thanks for reading,

sam

[kizo]

Hi KevinJ and sambrn

we usually make textures for each road , so you are right.....for junctions and such we export the outlined UVW to PS and paint there.
for all other parts we have premade textures
sometimes we paint the whole terrain.....and others we just make a polygon line that covers the intersection of the road and terrain ( we do it using PaintOnSurface/draw polygon )

for all distant shots we use only textures , no real grass


I hope this gives you an idea, if you have other questions just ask


kizo

[sambrn]

Thanks Kizo for your reply, i really appreciated it.

Sam

[kizo]

np Sam

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I updated our gallery with a few shots from one older project.......

I dont know about all of you but seems we will have a lot less to show this year :(

kizo

[Rich_Art]

Wow great images (again) LoL

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[ichi.one]

np Sam

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I updated our gallery with a few shots from one older project.......

I dont know about all of you but seems we will have a lot less to show this year :(

kizo

again good work, i like the one at the water
is everything rendered or is it a photomontage ?

is it the creditcrunch that hits the workload ?
the first 2 months of 09 were slow, now it seems to have picked up here
donno what the next months will bring, somethings stay on hold

[glass.use]

beautiful update kizo :D
i really liked the interior smooth lighting. well done =)

[kizo]

glad you like it guys......and I'm glad to hear you are alive glass.use :)

interiors are lit with HDRI only and I like the lighting also

ichi.one all is rendered, no photo montage
we are experiencing a real drop of work in the arch.viz. all because of the recession.....the real estate market has dropped 70-80% here and almost all new investments are stopped......and the situation isn't going to get any better soon

-----------------------------------------

on first page you can find a small reconstruction project we made
its really simple but gave me an opportunity to test the fish eye camera

one of the images is rendered with fry (Im sure you can spot it :)) and one is a photo montage


kizo

[Rich_Art]

Respect man... :) really great images..

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[kizo]

Thank you Rich_Art !

as always you are one of the few to give a word on our works :)
people do look but hardly ever have a comment or a critique.....this makes me sad, maybe its time to stop posting



kizo

[Rich_Art]

Please do not stop posting and showing images to us... :cry:
I really enjoy your work. And for me it is a kind of learning source as well.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :thumbup1:

[braalin]

I agree with Ritch_Art, don't stop posting, your renders are top quality
and it's difficult to spot differences between fry renders and vray renders in your last exterior images, that's impressive :shock:
maybe a little too much bump on the floor in interior shots(for my taste anyway)

[kizo]

thx Rich_Art and bralin

the floor was quite tricky as this are ceramic tiles imitating a wooden floor

but thats hard to tell from the images

kizo

[stefan]

really amazing work kizo!!!

love your work, as ususal, you get more and more to absolute realism with vray:-)

cheers
stefan

[nycL45]

FWIW

kizo, you may not be receiving critiques but these are difficult and quiet days around the world and people are struggling or are focusing on the work they have and scratching around for new work. All of the forums I visit daily are much, much less active these days.

Arscom's work is frankly intimidating, IMHO, because the renderings exhibit sophisticated technical skills with all of the tools and are (amazingly) rich and orchestrated compositions. Arscom has achieved a level of quality deserving of the label "masterful". You guys post so many stunning pieces and each is rich in detail, it takes a long time to take in all of what you have posted.

Arscom does not make many mistakes. When there appears there is a mistake, it sometimes looks to be due to a sw limitation and not an actual mistake. Unless there are obvious mistakes, who dares to criticize? You get praise and kind words or "how to" questions and that is understandable.

Anyway, I am impressed with Arscom's work and have shown your renderings to my wife, an architect, and my son (12yo) and hope to share new Arscom pieces with them.

Leonard

p.s., the right end pic is Fry?

[kizo]

Hi Leonard,

Id like to thank you !!! It is worth a lot to me.
I understand your point and have to say that I myself and my studio are experiencing a very bad period and things seem to be getting only worst.

My complaint is also a consequence of the situation (stress)....and even out of place :oops:.
As you can see we tend to give what we can in almost every job,regardless of the project type or even price and now faced with a substantial work loss the only gratification that remains are the critics or comments we receive.

as you know there is always room for improvement and a fresh pair of eyes spots the problems much more easily, but unfortunately not giving critics is a common behavior an all forums I frequently visit........and I admit that I'm no exception though I try

your comment made my / our day a much better one , and once again I thank you for that

kizo

oh and you were almost right about the Fry pic :) .....the other exterior(with the yellow facade) is Fry

[nycL45]

Hi Kizo. You and your studio are most welcome. And to you, your studio and all in this amazing business, I wish the best through these most difficult times.

Leonard

[St Cana's]

I think the reason you don't get as many comments as you might wish is that your work is so good! What's there to say other than "Amazing" or "I'm blown away". Maybe you should try putting something rubbish up for a change. That would get people talking! :lol:

Cheers
Karl

[STRAT]

Hi Kizo, great work

can you expand a bit on your candles? are the flames with the nice glows a vr material or is it all post work?

(sorry if this has already been mentioned)

[sambrn]

Hi kizo,

i like very much the two interiors you uploaded on 25.03.09
If i'm not wrong you used hdri for illumination... well i always set standard sky and sun for interiors whatever software and render engine i was using but this solution looks much better about what concerns illumination... much more natural and rich.

I just wonder if you put some area lights on the windows...
I usually put some are lights on each windows and set very low intensity. The purpose is not adding illumination but just reinforce some shadows which sometimes don't stand out clearly.

Do you use hdri as a light dome or as environment?

Thanks,

Sam

[kizo]

nice suggestion Karl :) i must try that
but I still insist that every piece has points that can be fine tuned and adjusted.....I can spot many of them and almost never Im totally happy with how things turn out

for candles I used a plane with a mapped flame (hdri for color + alpha) but the glow was added in post..........there is also a small sphere area light
Im glad you like it STRAT

you are right Sambrn , those are lit by HDRI in spherical dome area light.
I generated the hdris with maxwell.......and didnt use any other lights ..... but usually I also put some additional area lights on openings and give them slight color.
you could try also using light portals as they give a much better shadow definition, or using BF+LC combination with high subd......the times are higher but shadow and light definition is excellent

kizo

[hys]

@kizo

i hate you :!:



nice works man!!!

[eddie]

Kizo !!

u r still alive and kicking !
what`s up man?

best regards

Eddie

[sambrn]

Thanks kizo for your advice about interior illumination by Hdri.

There is a question about your works in general.
I notice you never use people in your render. Personally i only like people images put on a plane with alpha channel on but i use them only when the images suit well with the illumination of my scene and when they are far away from the camera. Generally speaking i don't like much putting people images since they can make your render looks unreal. I know other guys who use 3d low poly people models with a simple grey shader but of course this solution looks great only on unphotorealistic renders.

The problem is that the most of my clients ask for people in the views. Don't your clients do the same? How do you face the problem?

Just curious.

Sam

[cchren]

:) Oh wow! Rendering drawings are excellent,Good.

[kizo]

Hi Sam, sorry for the late reply.....for now we manage to avoid adding people.
Mostly because of the nature of our works and cos we insist on not using them.
If we were able to make a good integration we would most probably use them but it turned into our routine to make viz without people.

kizo

cchren thank you, glad you like it!

[kizo]

Hello I had a quick go @ the evermotion rendering competition

http://www.evermotion.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=388

here is my thread:
http://www.evermotion.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=73706

and here is the image:
http://www.3darscom.com/kizo/FINAL_mia_ok.jpg

was really fun to do and take a look at the competition , there are some exceptional works done there!

kizo

[stefan]

very very nice kizo!
:-)
cheers
stefan

[Rich_Art]

2nd that 200%... Very nice image.

Peace,
Rich_Art. :wink:

[colibert]

Your work is very inspiring!

and that image is lovely!! great job!

[Garban]

Always awesome man!! and house too :lol: :wink:

[kizo]

hey Thanks guys !

they extended the deadline for 7 days ....... so enough time to make something !

[rhodesy]

man that competition rendering is by far the best i've seen so far - think you might be in with a chance there Kizo, it's going to take something special to beat it!

[braalin]

GREAT! i also think this is the best image in the competition; light and materials are spot on, although i'm not a big fan of the fisheye camera in general
this should be the winner :wink:

[maya69]

for me no probleme the last image is very good

But i dislike your barel distortion (lens optique)

i think without distortion your image is better

best regard

phil

[rhodesy]

I think the distortion is a nice touch! Personal choice who knows which way the judges will swing?! :wink:

[kizo]

Hi, you are way to kind guys :) I think this has no chance ..... as you can see how in detail others managed their entries, and also the quality they achieved

I stand strongly behind my choice about the distorted fish eye cam.......if you look in my thread there were tests without it, but they just dont look right

I used some extreme cam angle like 8 or smthing and without the fish eye cam I cudnt have this composition, and the composition and POV were my main interests


ty all

kizo

[choppir]

Nice work Kizo!

How did you get that ''Fisheye lens''?

Good work mate. :D

choppir

[kizo]

hey ty choppir !

I used the "Lens distortion" parameter in the phys. cam ..... but it can be also achieved by using controls in render settings/VrayBridge/Vray Camera
by choosing Fish eye cam and setting the Vray FOV and curve

kizo